BLACKBOOK ARCHIVE INTERVIEW: Depeche Mode’s Dave Gahan Meets The Killers’ Brandon Flowers

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With a vital, exciting new album, Spirit, released this week, Depeche Mode once again prove that they are post-punk’s most enduring and relevant act. Not to mention one of the most influential. Worldwide ticket sellouts for their Global Spirit tour confirms that they are also the most popular,

Here we revisit a strikingly visceral and revealing 2009 BlackBook interview with godlike singer Dave Gahan and the frontman of one of their most successful musical progeny, The Killers’ Brandon Flowers.


Brandon, how have you been influenced by Depeche Mode?

BF  Before I ever thought of myself as a musician, I was personally affected by Depeche Mode. Some Great Reward and Songs of Faith and Devotion shaped me as an individual before I even wrote a song. So they mean a lot to me… [laughs]. God, this is surreal.

It’s interesting that you bring up Songs of Faith and Devotion. I’ve always seen Depeche Mode’s work as being about exploring guilt, perversity and sexuality as a reaction to society’s ideas about religion and morality.

DG  The three subjects that you mentioned and that Depeche Mode write about are the keys to wanting to be a part of something, and wanting to be able to be intimate, and ultimately having some sense of peace within yourself. For me, I can’t get that from somebody or something else. You have to feel it within, that there’s something that the universe is offering; but we often seem unable to grasp it.

Brandon, there also seems to be a search for moral and spiritual grounding in your songs.

BF  It’s been a constant struggle for me. Growing up in Las Vegas really prepared me for this. There’s so much that goes on there that is taboo everywhere else, and it finds its way into our songs. I’m trying to come to terms with the reality that I’m a believer, and I’m getting more comfortable with it as I get older. Sometimes it’s a weird contradiction with what I do, I know.
DG  Not really. It takes a lot of courage nowadays to actually come out and say that. I think we all want to believe in something.

The lyrics to the songs “Kingdom” and “Miracles” on your solo record Hourglass deal directly with the struggles of being a non-believer.

DG  Yeah, it’s a constant search for hope and faith that there is a higher power that has a better eye on things—because, obviously, we’re not doing a very good job of it.

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Well, the Killers’ “Are we human?” is a big, poignant, existential question.

DG  Through music, you’re able to express that, whether lyrically or atmospherically. I hear it in the landscape of the Killers’ songs; I can hear the search.

I think it was Wagner who said that if you want to find God, look for Him in music.

BF  They say that making your own music can be the closest thing to a religious experience. When I do go to church, the hymns are what always suck me in. I can be having a day of doubt, but as soon as I hear the right gospel song, it’s over. There’s no more doubt.

Dave, you were a part of destroying everything that the music industry had become comfortable with. It was punk, it was electronic music and the bands did it. Now, technology is changing things for the bands, rather than the bands being in control of the revolution. How are you both dealing with it?

BF  I’m paranoid all the time because of YouTube [laughs]. But the great thing about technology is that it allows you to make an amazing sounding record in your kitchen.

You could argue that Daniel Miller took the first step down that road. He said that a guy, alone with his synthesizer, was the most punk thing ever. And he made this incredible club hit, “Warm Leatherette,” as the Normal, with just himself and his machine.

DG  Yeah, that was pretty radical at the time. We had that as our template for the kind of music we wanted to make. Coming out of punk, we knew we weren’t going to blag our way through guitar, bass and drums. But we could just plug our three synthesizers into a PA, and we could play all these little clubs in London. At the time, it was not considered “real” music.

Brandon, you’ve derided the lack of ambition from the general music culture, and with the latest Killers record, you seem to be reaching for grandiosity. U2 had The Unforgettable Fire and Depeche Mode came out with Music for the Masses. Are you consciously preparing for that next step?

BF  Well, in talking about all the blandness, I think it’s a fear of just going for it. All the bands I grew up listening to, they went for it. Now, we’re finally feeling comfortable enough, and we’re not going to be afraid of it.
DG  That’s right. You have to go out there and embrace it. We just made another record that was produced by Ben Hillier, and he said to me that he’s never worked with a vocalist who works as hard as I do. But a lot of discipline goes into maintaining any kind of ongoing success and ongoing growth. It’s not something you just pull out of the air. You have to believe in what you’re doing.

What do you want to give people with your music?

BF  There’s never been a song that we put out that I don’t want to sing. It’s inevitable that someone else is going to feel that same feeling that I have, that transcendence. For instance, no matter how dark a Depeche Mode song might be, there was always something uplifting about it.
DG  I’ve never quite understood why people think our music is so depressing. We’re making music that relates to life. I could be singing about hiding away within myself, but the music takes you to a higher place. It’s that human contradiction. There is a lot of black comedy in our music that I don’t think people really get.
BF  The last song on Black Celebration, “But Not Tonight”… [sighs heavily in adoration]. The line, “My eyes have been so red I’ve been mistaken for dead / But not tonight.” Those are the moments I’m talking about—in all the dark, there’s optimism.
DG  That’s life, and it’s why people relate to it.

Gorillaz Announce First New Album in 6 Years, ‘Humanz’

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After more than half a decade, Gorillaz will finally release a new full album: Humanz, out April 28.

The band made the bid announcement via Instagram, in a series of several posts that make their flow look really cool, but can ultimately be summed up in this one:


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What’s most exciting about the new music, though, are the rumored featured artists, whom Pitchfork reports includes Vince Staples, Danny Brown, D.R.A.M., Grace Jones, Mavis Staples, De La Soul, Pusha T, Kali Uchis, Kelela, Savages’ Jehnny Beth, Popcaan, Jamie Principle, Kilo Kish, Anthony Hamilton, Peven Everett, and Zebra Katz.

And the news only gets better and better: according to NME, they’ll release four new tracks tonight! Here’s the album artwork for the forthcoming tracks, as seen on their Tidal page:GorillazTidal

Singer + Twin Peaks Star Chrysta Bell’s Hip Guide to Oakland

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Our love for all things David Lynch has never been a secret. So it’s hardly a surprise, we’ve also fallen hard for his current and always stunning muse Chrysta Bell. The ethereal vocalist and songwriter has regularly collaborated with the modern Renaissance man, including the gorgeous recent single and video “Beat the Beat.”

Leading up to the quite anxiously awaited release of her new album We Dissolve, produced by John Parish (PJ Harvey), as well as her starring role in Showtime’s equally anticipated new Twin Peaks series, we asked the lovely Mlle. Bell to give us a peek into her current creative mindset…and also to share some insights into where she goes to seek sustenance and inspiration in her new adopted home of Oakland, California.

Chrysta Bell on Her New Music

The new record has a lot of the same darkness and tension of my music with David Lynch, but with some radio-friendly aspects as well. I venture into some “goth soul” territory, which comes pretty naturally with my most prevalent artistic motifs of the life/death/life cycle, the Great Unknown and Ultimate Transcendence. The lyrical matter is still pretty heavy and twisted… death ballads/murder ballads/obsession/passion/escapism. In the music I always want to convey that there will be a final and total peace, but the record romanticizes the trip of humanness, being trapped in a feedback loop. In the song “Over You’ I want to get over you but I don’t want to get over you. In “Heaven” I’m calling a dead lover and leaving phone messages.

On Why Oakland Inspires Her

Oakland is the most raw, exciting, brutal, depressing, vibrant and inspiring place I have ever lived. The plight of existence and the will to overcome adversity is everywhere. The duality of the organic ice cream shop next door to a tent community of homeless is commonplace. There are signs of life, death, struggle, survival, compassion and courage on every block. I have been undeniably enriched and expanded by my time living here.


 On Her Favorite Hangouts in Oakland

Beauty’s Bagel Shop  (Breakfast)

The line out the door will not be an issue once you taste this bagel. As you wait you’ll be sufficiently entertained by the stellar people-watching due to its location in the young, alternative and vibrant Temescal neighborhood. I always get the everything breakfast bagel with braised greens. The coffee is a standout as well.


Shangri-La Vegan (Lunch)

The food at this vegan spot is simple, wholesome and extremely tasty. The atmosphere is super chill and it’s a great place for having a thoughtful conversation with your dining companion. There’s only one thing on the menu (it changes daily) and it comes with soup and all-you-can-drink hot tea that is earthy and satisfying. There is a selection of after-dinner treats and I always indulge.

Geta Japanese (Dinner)

Geta is a tiny sushi joint serving traditional Japanese fare. Get the special of the day even if you have never tried it or even heard of it. Prepare your mouth for some of the freshest, most exotic and tastiest fish of your life; it’s the closest to an authentic Tokyo sushi experience as I have found in California. I love to order a carafe of hot sake and a beer and sit at the sushi bar; when the beer comes, ask for an extra glass and pour the sushi chef a beer. They love it and it’s a great and enjoyable way to bond.

Alchemy Bottle Shop  (Shop)

This boutique of expertly curated spirits, wine and beer is what would happen if an art gallery and an upscale liquor store had a baby. The interior is all white and chic, and the elegant presentation of the wide range of liquors, liqueurs, bitters, and exotic mixers (you name it) includes handwritten information about flavor profiles and origins. I love looking at all the creative bottles, labels and packaging and imagining how a bouquet from the farmer’s market will look in the bottle once the spirits have been enjoyed. The free Saturday “tastings” offer opportunities to expand your palate and meet locals.

Fox Theater  (Music Venue)

If you have a chance to see a band you love at Fox Theater, TAKE IT. It’s an architectural marvel built in 1928 that is beautifully maintained and features state-of-art sound and light packages – so the shows sound and look incredible. This venue will make a great performace from one of your favorite artists into a life event. Killer spot. An Oakland treasure.


Eli’s Mile High Club  (Nightcap)

This dive bar is the right mix of grime and personality. The owner is a great guy and somehow that shows through in the atmosphere. I filmed my music video for “Beat the Beat” at Eli’s, and he plays one of the bar patrons. A great place to meet friends who live close by, you feel lucky if this bar is your local hang. As David Lynch would say “it’s got a thing.”


‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ Trailer Depicts a Frightening Dystopia

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After some eerie promotion at SXSW and a protest against Texas’s anti-abortion law, Hulu’s The Handmaid’s Tale is piquing our interest. Based on the novel by Margaret Atwood, it depicts a dystopian alternate reality in which a theocratic military dictatorship has overthrown the US government and stripped women of their rights, forcing some to bear children for leaders whose wives are barren.

In the first full trailer, Elisabeth Moss (Mad Men), Samira Wiley (Orange is the New Black), and Alexis Bledel (Gilmore Girls) give us a glimpse at this unsettling story. After women are no longer allowed employment, they’re rounded up and taken prisoner. The story is all too timely given the country’s current social and political climates.

The Handmaid’s Tale premieres April 26 on Hulu. Watch the full trailer below:

WATCH: Exclusive SXSW Video Footage From ‘Treble House’

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SXSW has been arguably overwhelmed with corporate-sponsored events and parties. But what if someone tried to get it back to its essence: bringing together musicians to celebrate creativity?

And so it was that innovative music networking site Treble (check out the Treble app) organized the fittingly named Treble House, sponsored by JBL Audio and Shure, this past week in Austin – which turned into, well, a massive house party. We caught up with Founder Matt Bond for a chat about it.


What inspired the SXSW Treble House?

I hatched the idea a month and a half ago with our friends from Ear2Ground, Babes Only, Just Chicago, and a few other grassroots collectives we love working with.  We just wanted to create a place where artists could feel at home. During SXSW, there’s no where in Austin where artists can step away from the overcrowded masses 6th street and just hang out with each other and create. And thats what Treble is all about.
Back in New York, we have this amazing growing community of artists and musicians on the platform. Our “users” sit beside our developers and designer in product meetings. They organize and run our live events.  There’s a really unique energy, a true family atmosphere within Treble, and I think those vibes are very needed at SXSW.


Who were some of the musicians that showed up?

Taylor Bennett, Oshun, Supa BWE, Mullally, HoodRich Pablo, Squid Nice, Monte Booker, Smino, Andre Power (cofounder of Soulection)…we even had local musicians come by with violins and guitars to lay down some funky vibes in the studio. It was quite the smattering of talent.


Some of the highlights?

The House Party was very wild. Everyone was blown away by The Skins’ performance. My personal highlight was watching all up and coming artists on Treble thrive. ClicheRiz La VieSol88th Key, Kaisson, J Factor. These guys have been supporting our platform since day 1, so to have them come out to Austin with us and tear it up on stage and in the stu alongside big name artists was a blessing. Made me feel like a proud dad.


What is Treble’s overall “mission?”

Right now, the ground floor of the music industry is a massive, fast-growing pool of people and talent resources with no real infrastructure to connect them. Treble’s goal is to create that infrastructure. We want to help artists easily discover collaborators, find talent resources, and navigate the global music-making world. And we’re just getting started…


Forest Whitaker Will Executive Produce Angela Davis Biopic

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Actor Forest Whitaker will serve as an Executive Producer on Angela Davis’ upcoming biopic, Variety reports. The movie rights were acquired to the book Angela Davis: An Autobiography last year by Codeblack Films, which was created as a division of Lionsgate in 2012 to provide better film representation to the worldwide black community.

73-year-old Davis is one of the most important activists in history, having risen to prominence as a central figure in the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s. She made the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list in 1970 after being linked to the death of a Supreme Court judge in California, a crime for which she was acquitted two years later.

She will serve as an Executive Producer herself on the film, as will her niece Eisa, whose play “Bulrusher” was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. Fruitvale Station’s Nina Yang Bongiovi, Codeblack CEO Jeff Clanagan, and Free Angela and All Political Prisoners’ Sidra Smith are also attached.

Whitaker was last seen in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story and Arrival, and will next appear in Finding Steve McQueen, Labyrinth, and Black Panther.

Nat Wolff Discovers a Deadly Book in ‘Death Note’ Teaser

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Although Netflix frequently kills it with their original content, their latest movie is sure to be a hit among hits. Based on the Japanese manga series, Death Note has already garnered a large online following.

When a young man finds a notebook that holds supernatural powers, he is bestowed the ability to kill anyone with the stroke of a pen. With this new power, he begins a crusade against evil in attempt to become a human god. When a detective hunts him down, it becomes a dangerous game of cat and mouse.

Death Note premieres August 25 on Netflix. Watch the trailer below:

Lil Yachty’s Remix of ‘Chained to the Rhythm’ Is Getting Us Through This Day

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Lil Yachty just dropped a remix of Katy Perry’s “Chained to the Rhythm” on SoundCloud, and it’s truthfully one of the main reasons we’ve decided to keep fighting the good fight this Wednesday.

Take a listen, below:

Yachty shared the fun news over his Instagram account:

Thank You Katy Up Now On My SoundCloud.

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Perry’s hit, which has reached No. 4 on the Billboard Hot 100, is the lead single off her forthcoming fifth studio album. Lil Yachty, meanwhile, plans to release his first record, Teenage Emotions, later this year.

James Blake’s ‘My Willing Heart’ Video Stars a Very Pregnant Natalie Portman

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Natalie Portman has always been America’s sweetheart but she recently became a second-time mommy. Earlier this month, she gave birth to a baby girl.

But before giving birth, she took full advantage of her prenatal glow and starred in James Blake’s video for “My Willing Heart.” The black and white video features the expecting muse in lingerie as she lounges in bed, holding her tummy. Other shots show her silhouette, submerged in water.

Watch James Blake’s “My Willing Heart” video below: